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McCain and Palin

August 29th 2008 21:03
Sara Palin
As most people already know McCain picked an unknown from Alaska to be his VP choice, Governor Sarah Palin. It's pretty clear that this is quite the calculated choice. It is the first time that the Republicans have put a woman on the ticket, and a nice tie in to McCains ad attacking Obama for not picking Clinton. His message is pretty clear. "See, I love women! I picked one for my VP. Just ignore my policies, ideals, and practices. One vagina is as good as another, isn't it?"


Yes John, we're all clearly such silly women that we'll vote for the vagina without looking at the politics. And if you really think that you're a bigger sexist jerk than I previous thought.

Politically I do not support Palin. She's anti-choice, pro-drilling, supports teaching creationism in public schools and opposes same-sex marriage. Those are just not politics I can get behind. And yet, her very presence is still worth celebrating. Palin herself identifies as a feminist and her place on the ticket as a mother of a young child is important. Normally she would be drug through the mud for choosing not to stay home with her children full time. As one blogger Hugo says:

From a feminist standpoint, I’m thrilled that a candidate who is the mother of a very young child has been nominated. One of the standard tropes of social conservatism is that mothers of young children should not work outside the home. If Sarah Palin is the vice-president, one heartbeat (a septuagenarian heartbeat at that) from the presidency and also the mother of a special-needs toddler, that sends a powerful message about the compatibility of motherhood with career. However right-wing Palin’s politics are, the narrative of her life today reflects a deep feminism. She embodies, literally, the notion that women ought not be forced to choose between family and public duty. That’s a deeply progressive message, even if it’s sent by an ostensibly conservative woman.


I'm curious how this plays out with the deeply religious who feel a woman's place is in the home as well as with those who instinctively bare their teeth at the mention of the word "feminist". We will have to see how McCain's choice goes for him. Will he be able to win enough voters who want a woman no matter what to counter the loss of voters who want nothing to do with a woman/mother/feminist in the office?

Lastly I want to direct everyone over to Shakesville where the point is made clearly. You can attack her politics, attack her issues, attack her opinions. But her gender is not on the table. Sexism is still sexism, even if you don't like the woman it's being aimed at.
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Comment by Jonathan Biviano

August 30th 2008 14:51
I'm curious how this plays out with the deeply religious who feel a woman's place is in the home

Please, please find me a major or middle level religion that tells women they HAVE to stay home. Please, find me one. Because as a pastor of one of the most conservative denominations in America, a Southern Baptist Church, we taught that women could do anything they want with regards to work and home. Yes, children are better off raised by their mother at home, but plenty of women are great at doing both, as Sarah Palin proves.

So, please, give me a link to a religion other than Amish, FLDS or other extreme examples.

Otherwise you just appear to just be exagerating.

Comment by Edward 4

August 30th 2008 19:30
I just want to say that I think that Palin accepting the nomination with an infant child that has downs syndrome is a pretty bad idea. Now, I'm not a woman, I've never had a baby, but isn't a woman usually emotionally unstable after giving birth? Doesn't a child with special needs need, at the very least, a little bit more attention than a healthy child?

I'm not saying a woman should stop working after she has a baby. She can work full time for all I care, but its gotta be very stressful to work and take care of a infant with special needs. Now consider that the job she just accepted is one of the hardest a person can take on right now. It will be insanely stressful and she is going to be under instense pressure and scrutiny. I'm not saying she shouldn't continue with her life, but I am saying it might have been a mistake to take on this huge responsibilty at this point in her life.

Comment by Summer Minor

August 30th 2008 19:55
Perhaps they don't teach reading comprehension to become a pastor. I said with "the deeply religious", not a religion itself but the individual people who are deeply religious and hold to the traditional ideals. As far as I can tell a religion can't actually vote, however it's members can. And if you truly think there are not religious people who feel that a woman's place is in the home I'd like to welcome you to the real world.

Examples: Pastor Hagee who preached that men who stayed home with the kids and let their wives work are going to hell. Phyllis Schlafly , nearly any family that is Quiverfull, most of the hard conservatives, should I go on.


Comment by Summer Minor

August 30th 2008 19:56
Edward, she is married in case you didn't know. There's this guy, in the house, capable of caring for the kids. Oh gee, what's his name, oh um...

Oh yeah! Dad!

Comment by Edward 4

August 30th 2008 20:01
Yeah, but from my experience, it takes two parents to take care of an infant, let alone one with special needs. I'm one of five and my parents were always pushed to the limit whenever another one of my siblings was born. Add on top of that Daddy Palin is a fisherman and an oil worker so I'm sure homelife will become pretty intense. I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm just saying it going to be extremely stressful, and that it was probably a bad idea for her to take on even more responsibility.

Comment by Jonathan Biviano

August 30th 2008 21:36
I said religion, not religious figure.

If several people claiming to be feminists called for the murder of all boys under 12, would you say it's feminism's fault?

So some attention seeking individuals say something and you attribute it to doctrine? There hasn't been a concerted effort by any mainstream or other major group to force women back to the house in over one hundred years, and to think it's possible now is irrational fear.

Oh, that's right, you hear a story about a factory closing from Obama, and assume all of them are closing and everybody's about to be unemployed. You hear a story about a woman with cancer with no insurance, yet has a bald head from chemotherapy, and you think nobody has health insurance.

As for Palin and her child, her husband is a very capable father, she has a 17 year old daughter and 13 year old daughter that can help. It's also sexist to imply that a man with a child with Down's could be VP, but a woman can't, both towards the Dad and the Mom.

And it's less expensive to live in D.C. than Alaska, so he won't have to work. He can raise Treg, and she'll be there and so will her daughters.

Comment by Summer Minor

August 30th 2008 22:01
I said those who are deeply religious, not a religion. Just because you enjoying twisting my words to fit your need and then expect me to let you does not mean that I will. Cry "religion" all day, it does not change what I said originally.

There are hundreds, thousands of individuals who are deeply religious and feel that they are called by their religious beliefs to fulfill the traditional man at work/woman at home ideal. I never said a word about them trying to force all woman back to home. My god are you unable to read the words on the screen or do you just create your own insanity as you go. I said that the deeply religious people who feel that a woman's place is at home might be less inclined to vote for McCain because of Palin. Did you get that? Can you understand the words that are right in front of you?

Just because they don't all go to your church means nothing. Just because you choose to ignore them means nothing. Just because you turn a blind eye means nothing. Just because you don't like the few examples I give and choose to ignore all the people who listen to them and agree means nothing.

And, P.S. I don't have health insurance. Neither does my mother. Neither do my grandparents. Neither do my neighbors. Neither do my partner's parents. But I guess we're all just really figments of Obama's mind right.

Go away now, as SL likes to say "ignorance is boring."


Comment by Summer Minor

August 30th 2008 22:06
Edward, why does it take 2 when we expect dad to step up but only 1 when we expect mom to do it all. If you're so worried about it taking 2 parents then he shouldn't be going off as a fisherman and an oil worker.

Except that he's not, he's already stated that he's taking time off to be with the kids. But that doesn't matter to guys like you does it.

Comment by Steven Barrett's OpEd Blog

August 31st 2008 00:38
Kitten, I hate to tease you too much here or poke you with my giant fork, but shouldn't your subtitle read
This Cat Has Claws For A Cause: Conservatives Enter At Own Peril?

Wow! You wasted no time in unleashing your claws and baring your fangs while dissing the woman. But would you please put up a timeline for your life up against Palin's for us see how much more you've accomplished compared to her, relatively speaking?

Comment by Summer Minor

August 31st 2008 01:54
Steven, please point to all the places I "dissed her"


Comment by Summer Minor

August 31st 2008 21:15
Steven, I'm still waiting to be shown where I brought out the claws on Palin? Or perhaps you just assumed I did without bothering to actually read the post. I'm betting the latter.

Comment by Anonymous

September 1st 2008 00:24
Actually, I don't think conservatives will have a problem with Sarah becoming president of McCain dies. I've read a lot about how her husband is a true conservative. The implication is that he will be running things.

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